# From Firefighting to Real Estate: Winning in Uncertain Markets with Jacob Vanderslice

> Sam Sells and Jacob Vanderslice compare notes on their paths out of firefighting and into real estate, then break down market cycles, debt challenges, and the strategies that separate winners in a difficult economy.

- Show: The Disruptive Capitalists
- Episode: 54
- Listen: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/54-from-firefighting-to-real-estate-winning-in-uncertain/id1644437927?i=1000699075144

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